,SPEE* TO ! ,HANOV] ,CONGRESS ,PEOPLE 3 ,AU?OR 3 ,ROSA ,LUXEMBURG ,TEXT 3 ,SPOK53 ,OCTOB] #a#a1 #ahii ,S\RCE3 ,G]MAN3 ,AUSGEWAHLTE ,R$5 UND ,S*RIFT51 ,I,I 7,B]L93 ,DIETZ ,V]LAG1 #a#i#e#a71 PP4#g#h-#h#f2 ,5GLI%3 ,SELECT$ ,POLITICAL ,WRIT+S ,ROSA ,LUXEMBURG1 #a#i#g#a1 $IT$ BY ,DICK ,H[>D4 ,TRANSLAT$3 7FROM ! ,G]MAN7 ,JOHN ,HECKMAN ,TRANSCRIPTION_/,M>KUP3 ,T$ ,CRAW=D_/,BRIAN ,BAGG9S ,PRO($3 BY ,MAT!W ,GRANT ,COPYRI*IVE 7M>XI/S4ORG7 #b#d4 ,COMRADES1 IT W\LD BE LIKE C>RY+ WAT] TO ! SEA IF ,I W]E TO ADDRESS MYSELF TO ! !ORETICAL SIDE ( ! PROBLEM AFT] ,COMRADE ,BEBEL'S EXCELL5T PRES5TATION4 ,BEBEL H&L$ !SE QUE/IONS SO ?OR\ AGA9/ ,B]N/E9 ?AT IT W\LD BE SUP]FLU\S TO SAY ANY MORE AB\T IT4 ,/ILL1 ,I MU/ SPEAK TO ANSW] SOME ( ,DAVID'S COMM5TS1 :I* W]E 9 P>T AIM$ AT ME4 ,I %ALL NOT CONC]N MYSELF ) HIS REM>KS ON AGRICULTURE4 ,! QUE/ION ( >TIFICIAL F]TILIZ] PLAY$ SU* AN IMPORTANT ROLE 9 HIS PRES5TATION ?AT ,I C\LDN'T HELP ?9K+ ( ! SPEE* ( AN OLD ,POM]ANIAN F>M] 9 AN AGRICULTURAL CLUB MEET+1 9 :I* HE SAID3 0,I ?9K Y\ WILL ALL AGREE ) ME :5 ,I CLOSE MY PRES5TATION ) ! WORDS3 ,MANURE IS ! S\L ( AGRICULTURE40 .<,GREAT AMUSEM5T & 0,OHO0.> ,! WEAKE/ SIDE ( ,B]N/E9 & HIS FOLL[]S' !ORETICAL CONCEPTION IS !IR !ORY AB\T ! SO-CALL$ ECONOMIC P[] :I* ! WORK+ CLASS MU/ FIR/ A*IEVE )9 ! FRAMEWORK ( TODAY'S SOCIAL ORD] BE=E IT CAN SUCCESSFULLY C>RY \T A POLITICAL REVOLUTION4 ,DAVID & ,B]N/E9'S O!R FOLL[]S (T5 REPROA* US ) US+ EMPTY PHRASES & HAV+ A PR$ILECTION = MODELS4 ,BUT1 AS ,I %ALL PROVE1 ON ! QUE/ION ( ! SEIZURE ( ECONOMIC P[] !Y >E ! ONES :O USE PHRASES & MODELS4 ,IT IS WELL KN[N ?AT ,M>X PROV$ ?AT SPECIFIC ECONOMIC RELATIONS LIE AT ! BASE ( EV]Y POLITICAL CLASS MOVEM5T4 ,M>X %[$ ?AT ALL PREVI\S HI/ORICAL CLASSES ROSE TO ECONOMIC P[] BE=E !Y >RIV$ AT POLITICAL P[]4 ,& N[ ! ,DAVIDS1 ! ,WOLTMANNS1 & ! ,B]N/E9S SLAVI%LY APPLY ?IS MODEL TO CONTEMPOR>Y RELATION%IPS4 ,?IS PROVES ?AT !Y UND]/& NEI!R ! ESS5CE ( E>LI] /RUGGLES NOR ! ESS5CE ( CURR5T /RUGGLES4 ,:AT DOES IT MEAN TO SAY ?AT PREVI\S CLASSES1 NAMELY ! ,?IRD ,E/ATE1 TOOK ECONOMIC P[] BE=E !IR POLITICAL EMANCIPATION8 ,NO?+ ELSE BUT ! HI/ORICAL FACT ?AT ALL PREVI\S CLASS /RUGGLES CAN BE TRAC$ TO ! ECONOMIC FACT ?AT EV]Y NEW ASC5DANT CLASS ALSO CREAT$ A NEW =M ( PROP]TY ON :I* IT F9ALLY BAS$ ITS CLASS DOM9ANCE4 ,! >TISANS' /RUGGLE AGA9/ ! CITY NOBILITY 9 ! FIR/ P>T ( ! ,MIDDLE ,AGES DEP5D$ ON ! FACT ?AT1 AS OPPOS$ TO ! PROP]TY ( ! NOBILITY :I* CONSI/$ 9 L&1 !Y CREAT$ A NEW =M ( PROP]TY :I* DEP5D$ ON LABOR4 ,?AT WAS A NEW ECONOMIC CREATION :I* F9ALLY BUR/ ! POLITICAL *A9S & RE%AP$ 9 ITS [N IMAGE ! REMNANTS ( FEUDAL PROP]TY1 :I* HAD BECOME MEAN+LESS4 ,! SAME ?+ WAS REPEAT$ AT ! 5D ( ! ,MIDDLE ,AGES :5 ! MIDDLE CLASSES L$ !IR FIIAT OV]LOOK ! HUGE DIFF]5CE BETWE5 \R /RUGGLE & ALL PREVI\S CLASS /RUGGLES4 ,! ASS]TION ?AT ! PROLET>IAT1 9 CONTRA/ TO ALL PREVI\S CLASSES1 LEADS A CLASS /RUGGLE NOT 9 ORD] TO 9/ITUTE ! RULE ( ONE CLASS1 BUT TO DO AWAY ) ! RULE ( ANY CLASS1 IS NO EMPTY PHRASE4 ,IT HAS ITS BASIS 9 ! FACT ?AT ! PROLET>IAT CREATES NO NEW =M ( PROP]TY1 BUT ONLY EXT5DS ! =M ( PROP]TY CREAT$ BY ! CAPITALI/ ECONOMY BY TURN+ IT OV] TO ! POSSESSION ( SOCIETY4 ,?US1 IT IS AN ILLUSION TO BELIEVE ?AT ! PROLET>IAT C\LD CREATE ECONOMIC P[] = ITSELF )9 CURR5T B\RGEOIS SOCIETY2 IT CAN ONLY TAKE POLITICAL P[] & !N REPLACE CAPITALI/ =MS ( PROP]TY4 ,B]N/E9 CRITICIZES ,M>X & ,5GELS = APPLY+ ! S*EMA ( ! GREAT ,FR5* ,REVOLUTION TO \R SITUATION4 ,YET HE & O!R ADH]5TS ( 0ECONOMIC P[]0 APPLY ! ECONOMIC S*EMA ( ! GREAT ,FR5* ,REVOLUTION TO ! /RUGGLE ( ! PROLET>IAT4 ,DAVID HAS PRES5T$ A :OLE !ORY ON UND]M9+ CAPITALI/ PROP]TY4 ,I DON'T KN[ :E!R HIS CONCEPTION ( SOCIALI/ /RUGGLE 9 FACT LEADS TO UND]M9+ ANY?+3 ,I /RONGLY D\BT IT4 ,BUT IT IS BEYOND ANY D\BT ?AT SU* A CONCEPTION PRESUPPOSES ?AT WE HAVE HOLES 9 \R HEADS4 . ,DAVID & ,B]N/E9'S ADH]5TS LOOK AT \R POSITION ON TRADE UNIONS & COOP]ATIVES FROM ! PO9T ( VIEW ( ECONOMIC P[]4 ,WE >E ACCUS$ ( SEE+ !M AS A NECESS>Y EVIL4 ,N[ ,I AM CONV9C$ ?AT !RE IS NOT A S+LE COMRADE AMONG US - EV5 AMONG ! SO-CALL$ POLITICIANS1 AS ?OSE :O WANT TO DI/+UI% >TIFICIALLY BETWE5 POLITICIANS & UNION M5 W\LD EXPRESS !MSELVES - NO ONE :O DOES NOT CLE>LY SEE ?AT 9 ! >EA ( TRADE-UNION ORGANIZ+ ! GREATE/ P>T ( \R JOB REMA9S TO BE DONE & ?AT WE MU/ PUT ALL \R 5]GIES 9TO ?IS TASK4 ,ALL ( US CLE>LY SEE ?AT IF TRADE-UNION FI IS $UCAT+ A BROAD MASS TO ! NECESSITY ( CLASS /RUGGLE1 & FI\ND TRADE UNIONS >E ! BE/ MEANS TO ?AT 5D4 ,BUT 9 A C]TA9 S5SE1 ?OSE :O ACCUSE US ( BE+ ONLY HALFWAY FRI5DLY T[>D TRADE UNIONS >E P]HAPS CORRECT1 P>TICUL>LY :5 BY 0FRI5DLY0 !Y MEAN FUR!R+ ILLUSIONS 9 RELATION TO TRADE UNIONS4 ,IF ! TRADE UNIONS >E PRES5T$ NOT ONLY AS A MEANS ( W9N+ WORK]S TO ! CLASS /RUGGLE1 ( 5LI ,9 ITS /RUGGLE1 ! WORK+ CLASS HAS NO GREAT] 5EMY ?AN ITS [N ILLUSIONS4 ,FUNDAM5TALLY1 ?OSE :O SUPPORT SU* A VIEW ( ! ROLE ( ! TRADE UNIONS >E NOT AT ALL FRI5DS ( ! TRADE UNIONS1 = !Y >E NECESS>ILY WORK+ T[>D A LAT] DISILLUSIONM5T4 ,NOTIONS ALONG ?AT L9E >E EV5 MORE FALSE 9 RELATION TO COOP]ATIVES4 ,I WILL MAKE ONLY A FEW OBS]VATIONS H]E4 ,IT HAS BECOME POPUL> TO PUT COOP]ATIVES ON ! SAME LEVEL ( IMPORTANCE AS TRADE UNIONS1 OR EV5 TO SAY ?AT !Y >E A =M ( POLITICAL /RUGGLE4 ,NO1 COOP]ATIVES >E ( :OLLY DIFF]5T CLO?4 ,EV5 :5 WE LOOK ONLY AT !IR POSITIVE MEAN+1 !IR SIGNIFICANCE = ! WORK+ CLASS1 ONE ?+ REMA9S3 COOP]ATIVES >E NOT CLASS /RUGGLE4 .<0,QUITE RI ,SECONDLY1 ?OSE :O IMAG9E ?AT ! COOP]ATIVES ALREADY CONTA9 ! SE$ ( A SOCIALI/ ORD] =GET AN IMPORTANT FACTOR 9 ! CONTEMPOR>Y SITUATION3 ! RES]VE >MY .<( ! UNEMPLOY$.>4 ,EV5 IF WE SUPPOSE ?AT COOP]ATIVES GRADUALLY PUT ALL CAPITALI/ 5T]PRISES \T ( BUS9ESS & REPLACE !M1 WE C]TA9LY CANNOT 5T]TA9 ! FANTA/IC NOTION ?AT1 GIV5 ! CURR5T M>KET RELATION%IPS1 ! DEM& = GOODS C\LD BE FILL$ )\T A G5]AL PLAN TO DET]M9E PRODUCTION RELATION%IPS4 ,! QUE/ION ( ! UNEMPLOY$ W\LD REMA9 OP51 AS BE=E4 ,& ONE MORE ?+4 ,I DON'T KN[ :I* COOP]ATIVES PEOPLE ?9K ( AS AN IDEAL1 AS AN AB/RACT S*EME4 ,I ONLY KN[ ?AT ! ,5GLI% COOP]ATIVES1 :I* HAVE BE5 TROTT$ \T AS MODELS = ! COOP]ATIVE MOVEM5T1 DO NOT AT ALL REALIZE SOCIALI/ IDEALS 9 !IR PROCESS ( PRODUCTION4 .<,%\TS3 0,\R MODELS >E ! ,BELGIAN ONES60.> ,AT ! .<,5GLI%.> TRADE-UNION CONGRESS1 A TAILORS' UNION DEM&$ ?AT ! UNION'S P>LIAM5T>Y COMMITTEE %\LD COOP]ATE ) ! ,CORPORATIONS TO =CE ITS MEMB]S TO ABIDE BY ! WAGES & WORK+ CONDITIONS :I* HAD BE5 DET]M9$ BY ! P>LIAM5T>Y COMMITTEE3 SO CAPITALI/ EXPLOITATION HAS NOT BE5 DONE AWAY ) AT ALL4 ,! ,B]N/E9 FACTION'S !ORY AB\T ! G5]AL SOCIALIZATION ( CAPITALI/ SOCIETY IS CONNECT$ ) ?IS ECONOMIC CONCEPTION4 ,AFT] ,DAVID'S SPEE*1 IT W\LD 9DE$ BE SUP]FLU\S TO REFUTE EXT5SIVELY EV]Y EXPRESSION ( ?IS IDEA4 ,=1 AMONG O!R ?+S1 HE EV5 GAVE ! EXAMPLE ( T>IFF UNIONS AS A P>TIAL SOCIALIZATION ( CAPITALISM4 ,?OSE COMRADES OBVI\SLY CONCEIVE ( SOCIALISM 9 ! FOLL[+ WAY3 ALL PRACTICAL POLICIES W\LD REMA9 JU/ AS !Y >E N[1 ) ! POSSIBLE EXCEPTION ( GREAT] ATT5TION TO COOP]ATIVES1 & !N EV]Y?+ IS QUITE SIMPLE3 JU/ /ICK ! LABEL 0SOCIALISM0 ON !M1 & !RE Y\ >E6 ,!Y ONLY =GET ?AT1 AS ,5GELS ONCE SAID1 IF Y\ CLASSIFY A CLO!S BRU% AS A MAMMAL1 IT WON'T GR[ BREA/S = QUITE A :ILE4 .<,AMUSEM5T4 ,%\T3 0,BUT ?AT IS QUITE TRUE60.> ,ONE MORE OBS]VATION1 ON ! SO-CALL$ BREAKD[N !ORY4 ,( C\RSE1 IF WE CALL$ EV]Y?+ WE >E ALREADY DO+ SOCIALISM1 IT W\LD BE COMPLETELY SUP]FLU\S TO DRAG 9 A BREAKD[N4 ,BUT ?OSE COMRADES :O BELIEVE SU* A CRAZY NOTION .<,F5DRI* CALLS3 0,MORE RESPECT40 ,! ,PRESID5T R+S = ORD].> EXCUSE ME1 ,I DIDN'T MEAN TO (F5D1 ,I MEANT 0MI/AK504 ,?OSE COMRADES :O HOLD SU* A MI/AK5 NOTION ( SOCIALISM CONCEIVE ( ! !ORY ( EVOLUTION 9 A WAY ?AT1 ) A SMALL CORRECTION 9 ! DIALECTICAL CONCEPTION ( HI/ORY1 HI/ORY IS ONCE AGA9 A SMOO? & /RAIX & ,5GELS CONCEIVE IT1 & GET A NICE COMFY NOTION ( EVOLUTION3 JU/ :AT AN .<,ACADEMIC ,SOCIALI/ LIKE.> ,H]R ,BR5TANO W\LD WANT4 ,IF WE WANT TO LE>N FROM HI/ORY1 WE SEE ?AT ALL PREVI\S CLASS /RUGGLES HAVE GONE AS FOLL[S3 ?R\< LEGAL RE=MS & SMALL /EPS =W>D1 ! RIS+ CLASS GREW /RONG] )9 ! LIMITS ( ! OLD SOCIETY1 UNTIL IT WAS /RONG 5\< TO CA/ (F ITS OLD %ACKLES BY MEANS ( A SOCIAL & POLITICAL CATA/ROPHE4 ,IT HAD TO BE DONE ?AT WAY1 9 SPITE ( ! FACT ?AT ! RIS+ CLASS C\LD DEVELOP ITS ECONOMIC P[] TO ITS HIY4 ,COMRADES :O ?9K !Y CAN LEAD SOCIETY 9TO SOCIALISM PEACEFULLY1 )\T A CATACLYSM1 HAVE NO HI/ORICAL BASIS 9 FACT4 ,BY REVOLUTION WE DO NOT HAVE TO MEAN PIT*=KS & BLOOD%$4 ,A REVOLUTION CAN ALSO TAKE PLACE ON A CULTURAL LEVEL1 & IF EV] !RE W]E ANY PROSPECT ( ?AT1 IT W\LD BE 9 ! PROLET>IAN REVOLUTION1 S9CE WE >E ! LA/ TO TAKE UP VIOL5T MEANS1 ! LA/ TO WI% A BRUTAL1 VIOL5T REVOLUTION ON \RSELVES4 ,BUT SU* MATT]S DO NOT DEP5D ON US1 !Y DEP5D ON \R OPPON5TS4 .<0,QUITE RI ,WE MU/ PUT ASIDE ! QUE/ION ( ! =M ?R\< :I* WE WILL TAKE P[]2 ?AT IS A QUE/ION AB\T CONDITIONS :I* WE CANNOT PR$ICT4 ,WE >E 9T]E/$ 9 ! ESS5CE ( ! PROCESS1 & ?AT IS ?AT WE >E /RIV+ = A COMPLETE TRANS=MATION ( ! RUL+ CAPITALI/ ECONOMIC ORD]1 :I* CAN BE ATTA9$ ONLY ?R\< SEIZ+ /ATE P[] & NEV] ON ! PA? ( SOCIAL RE=M )9 ! CONF9ES ( EXI/+ SOCIETY4 ,?OSE :O GIVE 9 TO SU* A HOPE TAKE A /& :I* IS BAS$ EI!R ON IGNORANCE ( ! PA/1 OR ON OPTIMISM AB\T ! FUTURE4 ,N[1 ANO!R1 MORE PRACTICAL QUE/ION4 ,BEBEL POLEMICIZ$ BRILLIANTLY = SIX H\RS AGA9/ ,B]N/E94 ,I ASK3 W\LD ?AT HAVE HAPP5$ IF WE C\LD SUPPOSE ?AT ,B]N/E9 WAS ! ONLY ONE AMONG US :O BELIEV$ !SE !ORIES1 IF ! DIFF]5CES ( OP9ION /EMM$ FROM ! REALM ( AB/RACT !ORY8 ,WE >E A PRACTICAL1 FITY1 & IF NO?+ ELSE HAD HAPP5$ EXCEPT A !ORETICAL DEVIATION FROM ! USUAL P>TY L9E ON ! P>T ( ONE MAN1 H[EV] IMPORTANT & WOR?Y1 !N SU* A SPEE* BY ,BEBEL W\LD NEV] HAVE BE5 MADE4 ,BUT WE HAVE 9 \R ,P>TY A NUMB] ( COMRADES1 :O TAKE ! SAME POSITION1 & ! DIFF]5CES ( OP9ION DO NOT RELATE ONLY TO !ORY1 TO AB/RACTIONS2 !Y RELATE ALSO TO PRACTICE4 ,IT IS A G5]ALLY KN[N FACT ?AT = OV] A DECADE WE HAVE HAD )9 \R RANKS A FAIRLY /RONG T5D5CY 9 SYMPA?Y ) ,B]N/E9'S NOTIONS1 :O WANT TO PRES5T \R CURR5T PRACTICE AS BE+ ALREADY SOCIALISM1 & ?US - UNCONSCI\SLY1 ( C\RSE - TO TRANS=M ! SOCIALISM = :I* WE >E FIY SLOGAN4 ,BEBEL WAS CORRECT 9 SAY+ DISP>AG+LY ?AT ,B]N/E9'S NOTIONS >E SO CONFUS$1 SO FULL ( IMPLICATIONS1 ?AT !Y CANNOT BE GRASP$ 9 A CLE> \TL9E )\T HIS BE+ ABLE TO SAY ?AT HE HAS BE5 MISUND]/OOD4 ,PREVI\SLY1 ,B]N/E9 DID NOT WRITE ?AT WAY4 ,?IS LACK ( CL>ITY1 !SE CONTRADICTIONS1 %\LD NOT BE ATTA*$ TO HIM P]SONALLY1 BUT TO ! T5D5CY1 TO ! CONT5T ( HIS ESSAYS4 ,IF Y\ FOLL[ ,P>TY HI/ORY OV] ! LA/ T5 YE>S1 & /UDY ! TRANSCRIPTS ( ! ,P>TY CONGRESSES1 Y\ WILL SEE ?AT ! ,B]N/E9 T5D5CY HAS GRADUALLY GOTT5 /RONG]1 BUT HAS NOT YET COMPLETELY MATUR$4 ,I HOPE IT NEV] WILL4 ,9 ITS CURR5T /AGE1 IT IS IMPOSSIBLE = IT TO BE CLE> AB\T ITSELF2 IT CANNOT F9D ! RIITY MU/ BE UND]/OOD4 ,TO SEE H[ ?IS ,B]N/E9IAN T5D5CY W\LD LEAD TO MAK+ A PILE ( NONS5SE \T ( \R SOCIALISM1 LET ME TAKE A SMALL EXAMPLE FROM ! LA/ FEW DAYS4 ,AT A ,MUNI* MEET+ :I* WAS TO TAKE A POSITION AB\T ?IS ,CONGRESS1 A SPEAK] :O WAS TALK+ AB\T ! ,S*IPPEL CASE SAID ! FOLL[+3 0,S*IPPEL WAS SPEAK+ AB\T ! MILITIA1 :]EAS \R PROGRAM TALKS AB\T A PEOPLE'S >MY0 - A DI/9CTION :I* COMPLETELY ESCAPES ME1 BUT LET ?AT BE4 ,!N HE SAID3 0,9 DEF5SE ( ,S*IPPEL ONE CAN SAY ?AT ?IS PASSAGE ( \R PROGRAM ACTUALLY SAYS ?AT = ! PRES5T WE MU/ WORK = A R$UCTION 9 ! TIME ( MILIT>Y S]VICE60 ,I DON'T WANT TO ANTICIPATE ! DEBATE AB\T ! MILITIA :I* WILL COME 9 ! NEXT FEW DAYS1 BUT RA!R GIVE ! EXAMPLE AS TYPICAL ( ! ME?OD4 ,\R M9IMAL PROGRAM HAS A V]Y SPECIFIC MEAN+4 ,WE KN[ ?AT SOCIALISM CANNOT BE 9TRODUC$ ALL AT ONCE1 AS IF IT W]E %OT FROM A PI/OL1 BUT ONLY IF WE =CE SMALL RE=MS FROM ! EXI/+ ORD] BY LEAD+ A %>P CLASS /RUGGLE ON AN ECONOMIC & POLITICAL BASIS 9 ORD] TO 9CREASE \R ECONOMIC & POLITICAL /R5G?1 TO TAKE P[]1 & F9ALLY TO WR+ ! NECK ( TODAY'S SOCIETY4 ,TO ?AT 5D \R M9IMAL DEM&S >E TAILOR$ TO ! PRES5T4 ,WE WILL TAKE EV]Y?+ !Y GIVE US1 BUT WE MU/ DEM& ! 5TIRE POLITICAL PROGRAM4 .<0,QUITE RI ,BUT 9/EAD ( PO9T ?REE1 :I* EXPLICITLY CONTA9S A DEM& = ! MILITIA1 ! COMRADE 9 ,MUNI* PUT =? A DEM& = ! R$UCTION 9 ! L5G? ( MILIT>Y S]VICE AS ! P>TY'S PRACTICAL DEM&4 ,IF WE W]E1 9 ?IS FA%ION1 TO MAKE A SMALL FRACTION ( \R M9IMAL PROGRAM 9TO ! 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