,!SES ON ,! ,NEW ,9TIFADA 

,PEOPLE 3 

,AU?OR 3 ,*RI/OPH] ,Z4 ,HOBSON 

,TEXT 3 

,!SES1 ,OCTOB] #b1 & ,DISCUSSION 

  

,!SE 0!SES0 W]E WRITT5 9 ,OCTOB]1 #b1 %ORTLY AFT] ! BEG9N+ ( ! NEW ,PALE/9IAN UPRIS+1 OR ,9TIFADA1 & W]E PO/$ ON ,! ,UTOPIAN WEBSITE4 ,ALONG ) ! !SES1 WE >E REPR9T+ A COMM5T BY ,WAYNE ,PRICE & MY RESPONSE1 :I* W]E ALSO PO/$ ON ! SITE4 

,S9CE ! !SES W]E WRITT51 A GOOD DEAL HAS *ANG$4 ,HUNDR$S MORE HAVE DI$4 ,! ,B>AK GOV]NM5T 9 ,ISRAEL WAS VOT$ \T & A COALITION HEAD$ BY ,>IEL ,%>ON TOOK (FICE--/R5G!N+ :AT ,I SEE AS ,%>ON'S /RATEGY ( BLOCK+ AGREEM5T ON ! E/ABLI%M5T ( A TRUNCAT$ ,PALE/9IAN /ATE4 ,! ,BU% ,ADM9I/RATION 9 ! ,U4,S4 BACK$ ,ISRAELI POSITIONS SOME:AT MORE ?AN ! ,CL9TON ,ADM9I/RATION DID4 ,%>ON 5GAG$ 9 A NEW POLICY ( TRICK]Y--DEM&+ A COMPLETE /OP TO ANY >M$ ,PALE/9IAN ACTION OR EV5 /ONE-?R[+ BE=E NEGOTIAT+4 ,MORE DANG]\SLY1 HE LAUN*$ A POLICY ( ASSASS9AT+ ,PALE/9IAN MILITANTS & 9VAD+ ,PALE/9IAN >EAS TO DE/ROY SPECIFIC T>GETS4 ,SO F> HE HAS )DRAWN AFT] A LIMIT$ TIME BUT ! RAIDS S]VE TO W>N ?AT HE MI<T TRY LONG]-T]M OCCUPATIONS OR P]MAN5T CONQUE/ 9 ! FUTURE4 ,!SE AGGRESSIVE TR5DS 9T5SIFI$ AFT] ,SEPTEMB]#a#a4 ,SO :ILE 9 ! 9TRODUCTION TO ! ORIG9AL ,!SES ,I C\LD WRITE ?AT IT WASN'T YET CLE> :E!R OR NOT ! NEW FI<T+ W\LD LEAD BACK TO MORE NEGOTIATIONS1 N[ NOT ONLY DO S]I\S NEGOTIATIONS SEEM REMOTE1 BUT IT IS CLE> ?AT ! ,ISRAELI SIDE HAS NOT YET ACCEPT$ ! FUNDAM5TAL RI<T ( ! ,PALE/9IANS TO A T]RITORY ( !IR [N 7SEE ,!SIS #i74 

,DESPITE !SE NEW DEVELOPM5TS1 AS ,I READ OV] ! !SES ,I BELIEVE !Y >E WELL WOR? REPR9T+ BECAUSE ! ISSUES !Y RAISE--BO? ! BASIC QUE/IONS 9 ,PALE/9E & ! >EAS 9 :I* ,WAYNE & ,I DISAGREE--HAVE NOT *ANG$4 ,ON ! =M] PO9T1 DESPITE NE>LY A YE> ( FAIRLY CONT9U\S FI<T+1 ! FOCUS ( ! /RUGGLE >\ND 9DEP5D5CE 9 P>T ( ,PALE/9E 7?AT IS1 ! TWO-/ATE POSITION7 IS EV5 FIRM]4 ,NO MAJOR =CES 9 ,PALE/9E >E S]I\SLY TALK+ AB\T ! OLD GOAL ( DE/ROY+ ,ISRAEL2 MILITANTS & EV5 ,ISLAMICI/S >E TALK+ AB\T H[ TO =CE ,ISRAEL AGREE TO ,PALE/9IAN 9DEP5D5CE ALONGSIDE ,ISRAEL4 ,SO ! MAJOR ISSUES REMA9 = DISCUSSION4 ,ONLY ,!SIS #a#a1 ON ! 0WAN+0 ( ,U4,S4 DOM9ANCE1 UN=TUNATELY SEEMS WAY OV]BL[N4 

,AS TO ! DIV]G5CE BETWE5 ME & ,WAYNE1 ?OSE :O PUBLI% ,! ,UTOPIAN HAVE AGRE$ = MANY YE>S ?AT ONE %\LD SUPPORT NATIONAL LIB]ATION /RUGGLES :ILE NOT POLITICALLY SUP-PORT+ ! P>TIES & P]SONALITIES LEAD+ ! /RUGGLES4 ,?\< SOME AN>*I/S W\LD DISAGREE1 !RE'S NO DIFF]5CE BETWE5 ,WAYNE & ME ON ?IS PO9T4 ,H[EV]1 HE HAS CRITICISMS ( :AT ,I WROTE1 AS ,I DO ( HIS COMM5TS4 ,RA!R ?AN *>ACT]IZ+ ! DISAGREEM5TS H]E ,I'LL JU/ SAY ?AT ! ISSUES DON'T SEEM TO HAVE BE5 ALT]$ BY ! PASSAGE ( TIME1 SO ! EX*ANGE IS /ILL WOR? READ+4 

,ON ONE PO9T1 ,!SIS #a#b1 NO ONE HAS COMM5T$ AT ALL1 & ?IS IS UN=TUNATE4 ,V]Y MANY Y\NG PEOPLE--,I BELIEVE1 OBS]V+ & TALK+ TO !M--DON'T WANT A WORLD ( HATE & VIOL5CE4 ,?IS ATTITUDE CAN LEAD TO /RONGLY HELD FEEL+S ?AT ,PALE/9IANS & ,ISRAELIS >E EQUALLY AT FAULT4 ,I DISAGREE ) ?IS VIEW BUT IT'S TRUE ?AT W> & VIOL5CE1 EV5 VIOL5CE AGA9/ 9JU/ICE1 >E NOT ! WAY WE WANT TO ORGANIZE ! WORLD4 ,WE NE$ TO BE SURE WE SEE VIOL5CE1 :5 WE DO APPROVE ( IT1 AS AN EVIL NECESSITY--?AT WE DON'T BELIEVE 9 ! MORALLY CLEANS+ NATURE ( VIOL5CE1 A TW5TIE?-C5TURY MY?4 ,IF RESI/ANCE TO 9JU/ICE1 9CLUD+ VIOL5T RESI/ANCE1 >E NECESS>Y1 PEACE & TOL]ANCE--) JU/ICE-->E ALSO POSITIVE VALUES4 ,I HOPE !SE ?\<TS DON'T SEEM LIKE EMPTY CLI*ES4 ,WE HAVE TO ADDRESS PEOPLE'S CORRECT & PASSIONATE BELIEF 9 PEACE 9 ALL ?AT WE DO OR SAY AB\T ,PALE/9E & O!R ISSUES4 

--,*RI/OPH] ,Z4 ,HOBSON 

,!SES ON ! ,NEW ,9TIFADA 7,OCTOB] #b7 

  

,BY ,*RI/OPH] ,Z4 ,HOBSON 

,9TRODUCTION3 ,S9CE ,SEPTEMB] #bh .<#b.> A SECOND0,9TIFADA10 OR ,PALE/9IAN REBELLION1 HAS BE5 GO+ ON 9 ! ,ISRAELI-OCCUPI$ ,PALE/9IAN T]RITORY & TO SOME EXT5T 9 ,ISRAEL ITSELF1 AMONG ,ISRAELI ,PALE/9IANS4 ,MORE ?AN N9ETY ,PALE/9IANS HAVE LAID D[N !IR LIVES 9 /RUGGLE AGA9/ ,ISRAELI TROOPS1 OR SIMPLY HAVE BE5 %OT BY !M1 LIKE ! TWELVE-YE>-OLD BOY1 ,MUHAMMAD AL-,DURRA1 :O WAS GUNN$ D[N AS HIS FA!R DESP]ATELY %\T$ = ! ,ISRAELIS TO HOLD !IR FIRE4 ,!SE EV5TS HAVE CAPTUR$ ! WORLD'S ATT5TION4 ,! BRUTAL MURD] ( A LITTLE BOY1 CAPTUR$ ON TELEVISION1 HAS CAUS$ HORROR & REVULSION AMONG PEOPLE :O HAVE NOT PAID MU* ATT5TION TO ! ONGO+ ,PALE/9IAN /RUGGLES4 ,LIKE MANY O!R PEOPLE1 ,I HAVE WAT*$ !SE IMAGES & ?\<T MU* AB\T :]E ! NEW ,9TIFADA IS GO+ & :AT ITS OCCURR5CE MEANS = ! P[] ( ,U4,S4 IMP]IALISM1 :I* HAS SEEM$ UNASSAILABLE S9CE ! OLD ,SOVIET SY/EM FELL AP>T 9 #a#i#h#i-#i#a4 ,! !SES ?AT FOLL[ REPRES5T MY [N PO9T ( VIEW1 ?\< !Y RESULT FROM SOME LIMIT$ CONSULTATION AMONG PEOPLE WORK+ ON ,! ,UTOPIAN4 ,LIKE ALL POLITICAL 0!SES10 !Y TRY TO /ATE CONCLUSIONS 9 A COMPLICAT$ POLITICAL SITUATION RA!R ?AN TO (F] A FULL >GUM5T = ! CONCLUSIONS4 ,I & ,! ,UTOPIAN /AFF 9VITE VISITORS TO ?IS SITE TO COMM5T ON OR CRITICIZE !M4 ,IT IS POSSIBLE ?AT ! NEW ,9TIFADA WILL TURN \T TO BE ANO!R EPISODE ( FI<T+ ?AT BR+S ,PALE/9IANS & ,ISRAELIS BACK TO NEGOTIATIONS2 OR IT MAY LEAD TO A /RUGGLE )\T NEGOTIATIONS4 ,EI!R WAY1 ! COLLAPSE ( ! PEACE NEGOTIATIONS 7AT LEA/ TEMPOR>ILY7 & ! RETURN ( /RUGGLE 9 ! /REET SEEMS TO HAVE PUT ALL ! BASIC QUE/IONS ON ! TABLE AGA9--H5CE ?IS EF=T TO /ATE SOME OV]ALL VIEWS4  

,9 ! EV5T ( W> BETWE5 ,ISRAEL1 ,PALE/9E1 &_/OR ANY COMB9ATION ( ,>AB NATIONS OV] ! ISSUE ( ,PALE/9E1 ,I BELIEVE WE %\LD URGE ALL PEOPLE TO SUPPORT ,PALE/9E4  

,I = ONE BELIEVE IT IS UN=TUNATE ?AT ! 0PEACE PROCESS0 FELL AP>T4 ,DESPITE ITS WEAKNESSES & ! ILLEGITIMATE ROLE PLAY$ BY ! ,U4,S4 & ! ,ISRAELI GOV]NM5T 9 LIMIT+ ,PALE/9IAN RI<TS1 ! FIR/ ,9TIFADA & ! YE>S ( BACK-&-=? NEGOTIATIONS IT L$ TO PROMPT$ A SL[ %IFT 9 WORLD OP9ION TO RECOGNIZ+ ! JU/ICE ( ! ,PALE/9IAN CAUSE & ! MORAL RI<T ( ,PALE/9IANS TO LIVE 9 !IR [N /ATE4 ,9 MY VIEW ! OV]ALL BLAME = ! COLLAPSE LIES SQU>ELY ON ,ISRAEL & ITS P>TN]1 ! ,U4,S41 = CONSI/5TLY /ALL+ & WORK+ TO M9IMIZE ANY CON-CESSIONS TO LEGITIMATE ,PALE/9IAN RI<TS4 ,& ! BLAME = ! CURR5T /RUGGLE 9 MY VIEW IS DIVID$ BETWE5 ! ,ISRAELI RI<T ) ITS LEAD]1 ,>IEL ,%>ON1 :O /AG$ HIS0VISIT0 TO A JO9T ,MUSLIM-,JEWI% HOLY SITE AS A PROVOCATION TO D]AIL ! PEACE TALKS1 & ! GUTLESS ,B>AK GOV]NM5T & ! MAJORITY ( ,ISRAELI ,JEWS1 :O FAIL$ TO /& UP TO ,%>ON & ! RI<T4  

,9 ! PRES5T CONFRONTATIONS BETWE5 ! ,ISRAELI GOV]NM5T & MANY ,JEWI% ,ISRAELIS ON ONE SIDE1 & ,PALE/9IANS 9 ! OCCUPI$ T]RITORIES & ,ISRAEL ON ! O!R1 ,PALE/9IANS >E 9 G5]AL FI<T+ = ! JU/ GOALS ( ,PALE/9IAN SELF-DET]M9ATION & 9DEP5D5CE AS WELL AS ,PALE/9IAN EQUALITY )9 ,ISRAEL4 ,AS ,I SEE IT1 ! ,PALE/9IANS >E DO+ NO MORE ?AN DEF5D+ !IR RI<TS & EXI/5CE1 9 ! FACE ( AN ,ISRAELI GOV]NM5T ?AT EV5 TODAY--?IRTE5 YE>S AFT] ! ORIG9AL ,9TIFADA />T+ 9 #a#i#h#g--CLAIMS ! UNILAT]AL 0RI<T0 TO DECIDE :E!R OR NOT !RE WILL BE AN 9DEP5D5T ,PALE/9E & :]E ITS CAPITAL %ALL BE4 ,ON !IR SIDE !RE IS NO D\BT MANY ,ISRAELIS >E T]RIFI$1 BUT 9 L>GE P>T !IRS IS ! T]ROR ( ! P[]FUL :O LEGITIMATELY FE> ! VIOL5CE ( ! LESS P[]FUL4 ,!IR EF=TS TO D5Y ,PALE/9IAN \TRAGE1 TO DI/ORT ! UPRIS+ 9TO A M]E TACTIC BY ,>AFAT1 & EV5 TO JU/IFY KILL+ TE5AG]S BY BLAM+ ! TE5AG]S = FI<T+ BETRAY !IR [N BAD CONSCI5CES4 ,! BRUTAL FACT IS ?AT ,ISRAELI SOLDI]S & MOBS HAVE KILL$ MORE ?AN T5 TIMES AS MANY ,PALE/9IANS 79 ,PALE/9E & ,ISRAEL7 AS ,PALE/9IANS HAVE KILL$ ,JEWI% ,ISRAELIS4 ,EV5 MOB EXECUTIONS LIKE ! ,PALE/9IAN KILL+ ( TWO ,ISRAELI >MY RES]VI/S >E MOM5TS ( UNCONTROLL$ FURY 9 A /RUGGLE BY POORLY >M$ OPPRESS$ PEOPLE TO FI<T BACK AGA9/ SUP]IOR =CE4  

,! RI<TS ( ,PALE/9IANS TO HAVE !IR CAPITAL 9 ,PALE/9IAN ,J]USALEM & TO EX]CISE ,PALE/9IAN SOV]EIGNTY OV] ,PALE/9IAN P>TS ( ,J]USALEM >E P>T & P>CEL ( ! RI<T ( SELF-DET]M9ATION4 ,! ,ISRAELI GOV]NM5T HAS NO RI<T TO A VETO 9 ?IS MATT]4  

,AN>*I/S' ULTIMATE GOAL 9 ,PALE/9E 7AS ELSE:]E7%\LD BE A SOCIETY ( EQUAL RI<TS = ALL PEOPLES & RELIGIONS1 )\T A /ATE4 ,BUT 9 MY VIEW SU* A SOCIETY CAN-NOT BE CALL$ 9TO BE+ BY WI%+ = IT OR BY REFUS+ TO WORK ) O!RS :O >E /RUGGL+ = !IR [N DEMOCRATIC GOALS4 ,! /RUGGLE = ,PALE/9IAN 9DEP5D5CE IS AN UNAVOIDABLE /EP ON ! ROAD TO A FUTURE 9 :I* ,PALE/9IANS & ,JEWI% ,ISRAELIS CAN LIVE PEACEFULLY TOGE!R1 EI!R 9 ONE SOCIETY OR TWO4 ,CONCRETELY ?IS IS GO+ TO MEAN A ,PALE/9IAN /ATE4  

,SUPPORT+ ,PALE/9IAN 9DEP5D5CE DOES NOT MEAN SUP-PORT+ ANY P>TICUL> =M ( GOV]NM5T OR SUPPORT+ ! ,>AFAT 7OR ANY O!R7 LEAD]%IP4 ,AS ,I SEE IT1 WE SUPPORT A ,PALE/9IAN /ATE SIMPLY AS P>T ( ! ,PALE/9IAN PEOPLE'S JU/ DEM&S4 ,WE >E FREE TO ATTACK ANY P>TICUL> POLICY ( A ,PALE/9IAN GOV]NM5T OR ! GOV]NM5T AS A :OLE4 ,ANY TIME WE SUPPORT O!R PEOPLE'S DEM&S WE DO SO FROM \R [N 9DEP5D5T P]SPECTIVE4  

,9 TWO >TICLES 9 ,! ,TOR*_/,LA ,ANTOR*A1 NEWSPAP] ( ! ,REVOLUTION>Y ,SOCIALI/ ,LEAGUE1 9 #a#i#h#i1 ,I >GU$ ?AT A0TWO-/ATE0 POLICY--,PALE/9E ALONGSIDE ,ISRAEL--WAS ! BE/ %ORT-T]M GOAL ON ! WAY TO A SECUL>1 9CLUSIVE ,PALE/9E4 ,I CONT9UE TO BELIEVE ?IS1 EV5 ?\< IT 9VOLVES SOME REAL COMPROMISES4 ,ZIONI/S SETTL$ 9 ,PALE/9E FROM ! #a#h#hS TO #aidh ) ! AIM ( CREAT+ AN EXCLUSIVELY ,JEWI% /ATE1 & =C$ T5S ( ?\S&S ( ,PALE/9IANS FROM !IR HOMES TO DO SO4 ,!SE FACTS MAKE A /RUGGLE = A S+LE ,PALE/9E--EXPELL+ ! PRES5T ,ISRAELI /ATE FROM ,PALE/9E--A JU/ FI<T4 ,NEV]!LESS ?IS W\LD BE1 EV5 IF SUCCESSFUL1 A LONG & HORRIBLY BLOODY CONFLICT ?AT W\LD LEAVE ANO!R DISPOSSESS$ NATION 9 ! WORLD4 ,9 MY EYES A ,PALE/9IAN & ,ISRAELI COMPROMISE1 ACCEPT+ AN 9DEP5D5T ,PALE/9E 9 P>T ( ,PALE/9E & LEAV+ AN ,ISRAELI /ATE 9 ! RE/1 IS A BETT] WAY TO MOVE T[>D PEACE BETWE5 ! TWO PEOPLES4 ,A 0TWO-/ATE0 POLICY IS NOT 9 ANY WAY AN OV]ALL LONG-T]M SOLUTION4 ,! RESULT+ ,PALE/9IAN /ATE W\LD BE WEAK1 DEP5D5T ON \TSIDE AID1 & ECONOMICALLY & MILIT>ILY DOM9AT$ BY ,ISRAEL4 ,H[EV]1 SEMI-PEACEFUL RELATIONS BETWE5 TWO 5TITIES1 ) CULTURAL1 POLITICAL1 & ECONOMIC CONTACTS ACROSS ! BORD]S1 >E AT LEA/ NO WORSE ?AN DECADES ( W> AS A BASIS = /RUGGL+ = A FUTURE S+LE1 NONRELIGI\S ,PALE/9IAN SOCIETY4  

,9 ! SAME >TICLES ,I >GU$1 & ,I CONT9UE TO BELIEVE1 ?AT EV5 ?\< ,ISRAEL'S CREATION RESULT$ FROM UNJU/ AGGRESSION1 ! PRES5T-DAY ,ISRAELI PEOPLE HAVE A RI<T TO LIVE 9 ,PALE/9E1 & TO HAVE A /ATE ( !IR [N2 BUT ONLY IF !Y ACCEPT ! RI<T ( ,PALE/9IANS TO 9DEP5D5CE & SETTLE ALL RELATIONS BETWE5 ! TWO PEOPLES ON A BASIS ( EQUALITY4 ,9 MY P]SPECTIVE1 AN>*I/S %\LD NOT FAVOR AN ,ISRAELI ,JEWI% /ATE BUT %\LD RECOGNIZE ?AT NE>LY ALL ,ISRAELI ,JEWS DO FAVOR IT4 ,!RE=E ACCEPTANCE ( SU* AN ,ISRAELI /ATE IS P>T ( ! COMPROMISES MAK+ PEACEFUL RELATIONS POSSIBLE1 PROVID$ ?AT ! ACCEPTANCE GOES BO? WAYS1 I4E41 ALSO FROM ,ISRAEL TO AN 9DEP5D5T ,PALE/9E4  

,I BELIEVE ! RESPONSIBILITY = MAK+ A 0TWO-/ATE0 SOLUTION POSSIBLE--& ULTIMATELY MAK+ PEACE BETWE5 ! PEOPLES POSSIBLE--N[ RE/S SQU>ELY ) ,ISRAEL'S GOV]NM5T & ITS ,JEWI% PEOPLE4 ,MO/ ,PALE/9IANS 9 ! OCCUPI$ T]RITORIES & 9 ,ISRAEL HAVE LONG S9CE ACCEPT$ ?IS POLICY4 ,BUT TIME & AGA91 ! ,ISRAELI GOV]NM5T1 BACK$ BY ! ,U4,S41 HAS BALK$ AT TAK+ ! RECIPROCAL /EP4 ,! RESPONSIBILITY IS ) ,ISRAELIS TO ACCEPT ,PALE/9IANS' RI<T TO 9DEP5D5CE4 ,IF !Y DO NOT1 /RUGGLE BY ANY & ALL MEANS = ,PALE/9IAN 9DEP5D5CE EI!R )9 ! ,WE/ ,BANK & ,GAZA OR 9 ,PALE/9E AS A :OLE 7I4E41 ! DE/RUCTION ( ! ,ISRAELI /ATE7 IS JU/IFI$4  

,:ILE SUPPORT+ ! ,PALE/9IAN /RUGGLE AS A :OLE1 ,I BELIEVE AN>*I/S & DEMOCRATS %\LD CONDEMN ! FEW 9/ANCES ( DE/RUCTION ( ,JEWI% RELIGI\S SITES BY ,PALE/9IANS4 ,PALE/9IANS %\LD DI/+UI% BETWE5 ,JEWI% RELIGI\S SITES & SITES & AG5TS ( ,ISRAELI /ATE OPPRESSION1 EV5 IF SOME ,ISRAELI CITIZ5S & (FICIALS NEGATE ! DI/9CTION BY US+ RELIGI\S SITES = PROVOCATIONS & ATTACKS4 ,PROVOCATIONS & ATTACKS %\LD BE ANSW]$2 RELIGI\S SITES %\LD BE RESPECT$4 ,?\< ?IS PR9CIPLE MAY AT TIMES BE DIFFICULT TO APPLY 9 PRACTICE1 ! PR9CIPLE IS VALID1 &1 ,I BELIEVE1 L>GELY ACCEPT$ BY ,PALE/9IANS4  

,DESPITE ! REAL DANG] ( W> &_/OR ANO!R PROTRACT$ P]IOD ( KILL+1 ,I WELCOME ! FAILURE ( ,U4,S4 EF=TS TO IMPOSE ITS [N V]SION ( A ,PALE/9IAN SETTLEM5T ON ,PALE/9E & ! RESUMPTION ( DIRECT /RUGGLE BY ! ,PALE/9IAN PEOPLE TO DET]M9E !IR FUTURE4 ,IT IS ! RI<T ( ,PALE/9IANS TO MAKE USE ( ,U4,S4 OR ANY O!R M$IATION OR PRESSURE TO MOVE CLOS] TO SELF-DET]M9ATION4 ,NONE!LESS1 SU* M$IATION REFLECT$ & RE9=C$ ! ,U4,S4 POSITION AS ! WORLD'S IMP]IALI/ MA/]4 ,EV5TS AS DIV]SE AS ! ANTI-GLOBALIZATION PROTE/S1 ! REVOLUTION 9 ,YUGOSLAVIA 7AGA9/ A ,U4,S4 5EMY BUT L$ BY A CRITIC ( ! ,U4,S471 & ! MASS GAS PRICE PROTE/S 9 ,EUROPE %[ ?AT ?IS /RANGLEHOLD MAY BE WEAK5+4 ,! FAILURE ( ,U4,S4 SETTLEM5T EF=TS REFLECTS ! WAN+ ABILITY ( ,U4,S4 IMP]IALISM TO DICTATE TO ! WORLD'S PEOPLE1 9CREASES OPPRESS$ PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO /RUGGLE = JU/ICE1 & IS A SIGN ( HOPE 9 ! CURR5T WORLD SITUATION4  

0,:Y10 MY Y\NG FRI5D SAID1 0DOES EV]YONE HATE SO MU*8 ,IT SEEMS !RE IS NO LIMIT TO HATE40 ,?AT IS A REAL TRU?4 ,BUT ! ABS5CE ( HATE HAS TO BE BAS$ ON SOCIAL JU/ICE4 ,9 FACT1 ABS5CE ( JU/ICE CREATES HATE3 DEF5SIVE1 REPRESSIVE HATE ON ! P>T ( ! OPPRESSORS & B5EFICI>IES ( OPPRESSION 79 ?IS CASE ! ,ISRAELI RI<T W+ & MU* ( ! ,ISRAELI PUBLIC71 & REBELLI\S HATE ON ! P>T ( ! OPPRESS$4 ,H[EV] MU* HATE !Y MAY %[ & H[EV] UNJU/IFI$ SOME SPECIFIC ACTION MAY BE1 ! ,PALE/9IANS HAVE RI<T ON !IR SIDE2 ,%>ON1 ,B>AK1 & ! MAJORITY ( ,ISRAELI ,JEWS :O >E N[ SELF-RI<TE\SLY JUDG+ :E!R !Y HAVE 0P>TN]S = PEACE0 7= ! CONT9UATION ( !IR P[]7 >E WRONG4 ,I CONT9UE TO FAVOR A COMPROMISE BAS$ ON SOCIAL JU/ICE1 IF ! ,ISRAELIS CAN WAKE UP & ACCEPT IT2 BUT ! FI<T = JU/ICE IS FUNDAM5TAL4 ,=W>D ?R\< SOCIAL JU/ICE TO A WORLD )\T HATE4  
  
,FUR!R ,COMM5T ON ! ,NEW ,9TIFADA 

  

,BY ,WAYNE ,PRICE 

,I AGREE ) ALMO/ EV]Y?+ ,*RIS WRITES BUT ,I ?9K SOME?+ MORE NE$S TO BE SAID1 :I* HE MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE )4 

,! CURR5T REBELLION BY ! ,PALE/9IANS & ! REPRESSIVE REACTION ( ! ,ISRAELIS DEMON/RATES SOME?+ IMPORTANT4 ,!RE IS A GREAT NE$ = A REVOLUTION>Y SOCIALI/-AN>*I/ MOVEM5T 9 ! ,MIDDLE ,EA/4 ,:5 ,I SAY0MOVEM5T10 ,I AM 9CLUD+ ! NE$ = AN AN>*I/ ORGANIZATION TO SPREAD ANTI-AU?ORIT>IAN IDEAS4 

,! DOM9ANT IDEAS ( ! ,ISRAELI_/,PALE/9IAN CONFLICT1 ON BO? SIDES1 >E NATIONALI/4 ,BY 0NATIONALISM0 ,I DO NOT MEAN A FEEL+ ( PLACE & A RESPECT = ONE'S PEOPLE1 ITS TRADITIONS1 ! DEMOCRATIC & REBELLI\S ASPECTS ( ITS HI/ORY1 OR ITS CONTRIBUTIONS TO WORLD CULTURE4 ,BO? ! ,JEWS & ! ,PALE/9IAN ,>ABS HAVE MU* TO BE PR\D ( 9 !IR HI/ORIES4 ,?IS IS A S5SE ( 0NATIONALITY10 :I* ,I AM DI/+UI%+ FROM ! PROGRAM ( 0NATIONALISM40 7,?IS MAY SEEM >BITR>Y1 BUT ! T]MS DO NOT MATT]2 IT IS ! CONCEPTS :I* >E IMPORTANT47 

,BY 0NATIONALISM10 ,I MEAN ?9K+ 9 BLOC CONCEPTS3 ! ,JEWS V]SUS ! ,>ABS4 ,IF ONE IS ,JEWI%1 !N Y\ ?9K ( ALL ,JEWS AS ! ,GOOD ,GUYS TO BE SUPPORT$ AGA9/ ! FACELESS WALL ( ,>AB OPPOSITION1 :I* IS REG>D$ AS CONT9U+1 9 A /RAI<T L9E1 ! WORLD'S ANTI-,SEMITISM1 9CLUD+ ! ,NAZIS'4 ,IF ONE IS A ,PALE/9IAN ,>AB1 Y\ SEE ALL ! ,JEWS AS A FACELESS UNITY1 ! 0,ZIONI/ 5TITY10 :ILE WI%+ ALL ! ,>ABS TO BE A UNIT$ 5EMY ( ! ,ISRAELIS4 ,SU* BLOC ?9K+ IS V]Y USEFUL = AU?ORIT>IAN LEAD]S4 ,! PEOPLE ID5TIFY ) ! LEAD] & >E URG$ TO RALLY >\ND4 ,>AFAT1 DESPITE HIS DISA/R\S POLICIES1 IS /ILL RESPECT$ BY MANY ,PALE/9IANS BECAUSE HE IS1 AFT] ALL10!IR0 LEAD]4 ,ISRAELIS >E URG$ TO =M A NATIONAL GOV]NM5T ( UNITY1 BR++ 9TO ! GOV]NM5T ! V]Y PEOPLE :O PRECIPITAT$ ! CURR5T CONFLICT4 ,NATIONALI/ ?9K+ JU/IFIES ! /ATE4 ,PEOPLE FEEL !Y NE$ ! NATIONAL /ATE TO PROTECT 0US0 AGA9/ 0!M40 ,MEAN:ILE ! RUL+ ELITE 9 EA* NATION USES ! /ATE TO OPPRESS ! MAJORITY ( EA* NATION4 

,! PROBLEM ) NATIONALISM IS ?AT IT PAP]S OV] ! V]Y REAL SPLITS & CONFLICTS )9 EA* BLOC4 ,REVOLUTION>Y AN>*I/S WI% TO MAKE !SE CONFLICTS CLE> TO ALL4 ,)9 ,ISRAEL1 !SE 9CLUDE ! CONFLICT BETWE5 ! WORK]S & ! CAPITALI/S1 ! SECUL>I/S & ! ,OR?ODOX1 MALE *AUV9I/S & WOM51 W> HAWKS & PEAC5IKS1 ,EUROPEAN ,JEWS & ,>ABIC ,JEWS 7,SEPH>DIM7--AS WELL AS ,RUSSIAN ,JEWS & ,AFRICAN ,JEWS1 & ALL ! ,ISRAELI ,JEWS V]SUS ! ,ISRAELI ,>ABS4 

,AMONG ! ,>ABS1 !RE >E ! CONFLICTS BETWE5 ! ,PALE/9IANS & ! V>I\S O!R ,>AB NATIONS & !IR GOV]NM5TS 7,PALE/9IANS HAV+ TAK5 P>T 9 9T]NAL W>S 9SIDE ,LEBANON1 ,JORDAN1 ,KUWAIT1 & ELSE:]E1 AS !Y HAVE BE5 SOLD \T REPEAT$LY BY !IR 0BRO!R ,>AB0 RUL]S74 ,!RE >E ! V>I\S ,PALE/9IAN P>TIES1 :I* HAVE AT TIMES F\<T IT \T2 ! P>TIES REPRES5T V>I\S VIEWS3 SECUL>I/1 !OCRATIC-,ISLAMICI/1 CAPITALI/ DEMOCRATIC1 NATIONALI/ SOCIALI/1 NATIONALI/ ,M>XI/4 ,!RE >E DIFF]5CES BETWE5 ! ,PALE/9IANS :O /AY$ )9 ,ISRAEL1 ! ,PALE/9IANS 9 ! ,OCCUPI$ ,T]RITORIES1 & ! ,PALE/9IANS \TSIDE ( ,ISRAELI CON-TROLL$ L&4 ,MO/ IMPORTANTLY1 FROM \R PO9T ( VIEW1 >E ! CONFLICT+ 9T]E/S ( ! MASS ( ,PALE/9IANS & ! CAPITALI/S1 ! L&LORDS1 ! POLICE1 & ! BUREAUCRATS1 REPRES5T$ BY ! ,P,L,O'S POLITICIANS4 ,>AFAT HAS SET UP A DE FACTO NEW /ATE1 ) ALL ! TRAPP+S ( P[] & CORRUPTION1 LACK+ M9IMAL DEMOCRATIC RI<TS4 ,MEAN:ILE ! WORK]S & PEASANTS1 ! REFUGEES & SMALL M]*ANTS1 HAVE GOTT5 VIRTUALLY NO?+4 

,IT IS 9 ! 9T]E/S ( ! WORK+ PEOPLE1 ! POOR & OPPRESS$1 ON BO? SIDES TO GET RID ( ! POLITICIANS & CAPITALI/S :O RULE !M4 ,?IS IS TRUE = ! ,PALE/9IANS1 :OSE LEAD]%IP HAS GIV5 !M SEV5 YE>S ( NEGOTIATIONS :I* HAVE WON VIRTUALLY NO?+ 9 P]MAN5T GA9S4 ,?IS IS ALSO TRUE = ! ,ISRAELIS1 :OSE ,ZIONI/ RUL]S HAVE L$ !IR PEOPLE 9TO A DEAD 5D1 ALI5AT$ FROM ! PEOPLE ( !IR REGION1 UNABLE TO 0W90 SAFETY BY SOME F9AL W> BUT UNWILL+ TO NEGOTIATE A LA/+ PEACE4 

,:ILE OPPOS+ ALL ! /ATES & /ATISMS ( ! ,MIDDLE ,EA/1 AN>*I/S %\LD P>TICIPATE 9 ! /RUGGLES ( ! OPPRESS$ & SUPPORT !IR DEMOCRATIC DEM&S4 ,RI<T N[ ! VA/ MAJORITY ( ! ,PALE/9IANS ACCEPT A TWO-/ATE SOLUTION4 ,AN>*I/S %\LD DEF5D !IR RI<T TO W9 ?IS DEM&1 BECAUSE WE BELIEVE 9 DEMOCRACY & SELF-DET]M9ATION4 ,BUT WE %\LD NOT CEASE TO PO9T \T ! LIMITATIONS ( ANY =M ( /ATES & ( ANY SORT ( CAPITALI/ >RANGEM5T4 ,WE ADVOCATE A F$]ATION ( NON-/ATE SELF-GOV]N+ SOCIALI/ COMMUNITIES ?R\<\T ! ,MIDDLE ,EA/1 ) MUTUAL RECOGNITION ( ! RI<TS ( ALL NATIONAL COMMUNITIES4 

,SIMIL>LY WE %\LD CRITICIZE ! ,OSLO TREATY1 AGREE+ ) PEOPLE LIKE ,$W>D ,SAID & ,HANAN ,A%RAWI ?AT ! SPECIFIC TREATY WAS A SELL\T4 ,BUT WE SUPPORT ! RI<T ( ! ,PALE/9IANS & !IR REPRES5TATIVES TO MAKE TREATIES ) ! ,ISRAELIS1 & ! NE$ = SOME SORT ( COMPROMISE IF !RE IS EV] TO BE REAL PEACE4 ,SO LONG AS ! TREATY WAS 9 PLACE & ! MAJORITY ( ,PALE/9IANS SEEM$ TO ACCEPT IT1 AN>*I/S %\LD NOT HAVE TRI$ TO OV]?R[ IT 7:I* W\LD HAVE MEANT AN ALLIANCE ) ,HAMAS74 ,!RE >E ALT]-NATIVES TO EI!R >M$ UPRIS+S OR PASSIVE ACCEPTANCE ( :ATEV] ! BOSSES NEGOTIATE4 ,!SE 9CLUDE MASS ORGANIZ+ & $UCATION 7:I* HAS BE5 DONE BUT ONLY BY SECUL> NATIONALI/S & BY ,HAMAS71 DEMON/RATIONS1 RALLIES1 /RIKES1 ACTIVE ALLIANCES ) PEACE-M9D$ ,JEWS1 NONVIOL5T RESI/ANCE CAMPAIGNS1 AMONG O!R POSSIBILITIES4 

,!RE WILL BE FUTURE UPS & D[NS 9 ! ,MIDDLE ,EA/1 ) FUR!R REBELLIONS1 MILIT>Y CONFLICT1 & P]IODS ( NEGOTIATION4 ,:AT ! LATE/ UPRIS+ REM9DS US IS ?AT NEI!R PEACE NOR LIB]ATION WILL BE A*IEV$ BY DEALS BROK]$ BY B\RGEOIS POLITICIANS4 ,PEACE & FRE$OM REQUIRE CONT9U$ POPUL> /RUGGLE FROM BEL[4 

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,BY ,*RI/OPH] ,Z4 ,HOBSON 

,WAYNE1 LIKE ME1 IS TRY+ TO ?9K ?R\< A COMPLEX SITUATION2 NEI!R ( US HAS ALL ! ANSW]S4 ,LET ME FIR/ /ATE :AT ,I KN[ ,WAYNE & ,I AGREE ON3 BE+ AN AN>*I/1 & !RE=E AGA9/ ! /ATE AS AN 9/ITUTION1 DOES NOT MEAN ONE CAN'T BE = NATIONAL 9DEP5D5CE 7:I* MEANS CREATION ( A NEW /ATE7 9 SOME CIRCUM/ANCES4 ,WE CAN WORK = \R GOAL ( A /ATELESS WORLD & /ILL BE = V>I\S 9T]IM GOALS1 IF !Y >E G5U9E /EPS =W>D & IF WE TELL ! TRU? AB\T !IR DANG]S4 ,?IS ATTITUDE SEP>ATES ,WAYNE & ME FROM SOME 9 ! AN>*I/ TRADITION4 ,BUT ?\< WE AGREE ON ?IS1 IT APPE>S ?AT ,WAYNE & ,I MAY HAVE REAL DIFF]5CES1 :I* ,I WILL TRY TO /ATE AS CLE>LY AS ,I CAN4 

7#a7 ,I MYSELF SUPPORT A TWO-/ATE POLICY 7IT IS NOT A SOLUTION7AS ! BE/ P>TIAL /EP =W>D 9 ! PRES5T CIRCUM/ANCES1 & AS PROVID+ A BETT] BASIS ?AN UN5D+ W> ON :I* TO WORK = A FUTURE /ATELESS1 SECUL> ,PALE/9IAN SOCIETY 7MY !SES #g1 #h1 & #i74 ,WAYNE APPE>S TO SUPPORT ?IS ONLY AS A CONCESSION TO ,PALE/9IANS' LIMIT$ CONCEPTIONS4 ,HE /ATES1 0,RI<T N[ ! VA/ MAJORITY ( ! ,PALE/9IANS ACCEPT A TWO /ATE SOLUTION4 ,AN>*I/S %\LD DEF5D !IR RI<T TO W9 ?IS DEM&1 BECAUSE WE BELIEVE 9 DEMOCRACY & SELF-DET]M9ATION40 ,?IS SEEMS TO MEAN ,WAYNE DOES NOT ?9K AN 9DEP5D5T ,PALE/9E ALONGSIDE ,ISRAEL IS A GOOD /EP =W>D 9 ! PRES5T SITUATION1 BUT P]HAPS HE HASN'T =MULAT$ CLE>LY4 ,I W\LD LIKE TO KN[ :E!R ,WAYNE AGREES ) MY VIEW OR :E!R HE W\LD PREF] ?AT !RE BE NO PEACE AGREEM5T & NO CREATION ( A TRUNCAT$ 9DEP5D5T ,PALE/9E :ILE AN>*I/S SL[LY P]SUADE EV]YONE TO FAVOR A /ATELESS SECUL> F$]ATION4 

7#b7 ,WAYNE & ,I ALSO APPE> TO HAVE DIFF]5CES AB\T H[ WE EVALUATE ,PALE/9IAN NATIONALISM4 ,WAYNE USES SYMMETRICAL =MULAS TO %[ ?AT ALL NATIONALISMS >E EQUALLY BAD3 0,IF ONE IS ,JEWI%1 !N Y\ ?9K4444 ,IF ONE IS A ,PALE/9IAN ,>AB1 Y\ SEE4440 7P>AGRAPH #d72 0,)9 ,ISRAEL1.<!RE IS A.> CONFLICT BETWE54444 ,AMONG ,>ABS1 !RE >E CONFLICTS BETWE54440 7P>AGRAPHS #e-#f72 0,?IS IS TRUE = ! ,PALE/9IANS4444 ,?IS IS ALSO TRUE = ! ,ISRAELIS44407P>AGRAPH #g71 ETC4 ,WAYNE SEEMS UNWILL+ TO AGREE ?AT !RE >E DIFF]5CES 9 *>ACT] BETWE5 ,ZIONISM1 ,ISRAELI NATIONALISM1 & ,PALE/9IAN NATIONALISM4 ,9 MY OP9ION1 ,ZIONISM1 ! IDEOLOGY ?AT SUPPORTS A RELIGI\SLY-E?NICALLY BAS$ ,JEWI% /ATE 9 ALL ( ,PALE/9E1 IS :AT GOT US 9TO ?IS MESS4 ,ZIONISM TAU<T ITS BELIEV]S ?AT !Y W]E RI<T TO /EAL ! L&1 EXPEL ITS 9HABITANTS1 TREAT ?OSE :O REMA9$ AS ?IRD-CLASS CITIZ5S1 &1 TODAY1 BALK AT ALL[+ A ,PALE/9IAN /ATE ALONGSIDE ,ISRAEL4 ,ISRAELI NATIONALISM1 9 ! CONTEXT ( ,ISRAELI POLITICS1 IS A MORE LIB]AL TR5D ?AT BELIEVES T]RITORY1 NOT E?NICITY & RELIGION1 %\LD BE ! BASIS = CITIZ5%IP2 !RE=E IT ADVOCATES A NON-,JEWI% ,ISRAELI /ATE ) EQUALITY = ,PALE/9IAN ,ISRAELIS1 & IS AT LEA/ MORE OP5 TO ! IDEA ( A ,PALE/9IAN /ATE4 ,PALE/9IAN NATIONALISM1 F9ALLY1 CONTA9S A CORE ( /RUGGLE AGA9/ ,ISRAELI OPPRESSION & = SELF-GOV]NM5T1 A POSITIVE GOAL4 ,I BELIEVE WE %\LD SUPPORT & ID5TIFY ) ?IS /RUGGLE1 BUT /ILL KEEP ! GOAL ( A SECUL>1 /ATELESS ,PALE/9E4 ,OV]ALL1 ,I BELIEVE ,I MAY SEE ! /RUGGLE = AN 9DEP5D5T ,PALE/9E AS MORE POSITIVE ?AN ,WAYNE DOES4 ,IF Y\ SAY AN 9DEP5D5T ,PALE/9IAN /ATE WILL BE AU?ORIT>IAN & REPRESSIVE1 ,I AGREE2IF Y\ SAY ?IS PROVES ?AT 9DEP5D5CE IS A MEAN+LESS TRAP1 ,I DON'T AGREE4 ,IT IS AN 9T]IM GOAL1 NOT ! F9AL GOAL1 BUT IT IS WOR?:ILE ALL ! SAME4 

7#c7 ,WAYNE SEEMS TO ME P>TICUL>LY (F-BASE 9 SEE+ A RISE 9 0?9K+ 9 BLOC CONCEPTS0 BY BO? ,PALE/9IANS & ,ISRAELIS AS ! GREAT DANG] TODAY 7P>AGRAPH #d74 ,9 REALITY1 MO/ ,PALE/9IANS HAVE ALREADY TAK5 ! IMPRESSIVE POLITICAL /EP ( ACCEPT+ ! ,ZIONI/ CONQUE/ ( HALF ( ,PALE/9E AS AN ACCOMPLI%$ FACT ?AT !Y >E PREP>$ TO LIVE )1 IF ,ISRAELIS CAN RECIPROCATE4 ,I WI% ,WAYNE W\LD UND]/& ?AT ?IS IS AN IMPRESSIVE /EP1 9/EAD ( FEEL+ IMPELL$ TO W>N AGA9/ 0?9K+ 9 BLOC CONCEPTS40 ,AT LEA/ UNTIL REC5TLY1 ,PALE/9IANS DID MAKE ! DI/9CTION BETWE5 ,ISRAEL & ,JEWI% PEOPLE1 & BETWE5 ! RI<TS ( ,JEWI% PEOPLE 9 G5]AL1 H[EV] RELUCTANTLY CONC$$1 & ! SO-CALL$ 0RI<T0 ( ,JEWS TO SETTLE 9 ,PALE/9IAN >EAS & TAKE !M OV] = ,ISRAEL4 ,TO ILLU/RATE ?IS ,PALE/9IAN ATTITUDE FROM ANO!R ANGLE1 LET ME REF] TO A CONV]SATION AMONG ,PALE/9IAN /UD5TS SOME YE>S AGO ?AT WAS REPORT$ REC5TLY 9 ! ,NEW ,YORK ,TIMES4 ,! ,PALE/9IANS AGRE$ G5]ALLY ?AT !Y1 NOT ,JEWS1 W]E NATIVE TO ,PALE/9E & ?AT 0! ,JEWS DON'T BELONG H]E40 ,BUT :5 ASK$ IF ?AT MEANT ! ,JEWS %\LD LEAVE1 !Y SAID NO3 0,ISRAELIS DON'T HAVE ANY O!R PLACE TO GO0 7,OCT4 #a#e1 #b3 #d3#a74 ,?IS WAS 9 #a#i#i#c2 REC5TLY !RE HAS BE5 A RISE 9 \TRI<T ANTI-,SEMITISM & ?IS SEEMS TO BE ! FRUIT ( ,ISRAELIS' /UBBORN REFUSAL TO RECOGNIZE ,PALE/9IAN RI<TS4 ,EV5 SO1 IT IS NOTABLE ?AT ! DEM& ,PALE/9IAN LOCAL LEAD]S ?REW BACK AT ,>AFAT AFT] ! SUMMIT .<,AUGU/ #b.>WAS = CONT9U+ ! /RUGGLE = A /ATE 9 ! ,WE/ ,BANK & ,GAZA4 0,WE WILL NOT /OP IT .<! 9TIFADA.> UNTIL !RE IS SOV]EIGNTY & 9DEP5D5CE = ! ,PALE/9IANS444 ! ONLY SOLUTION TO ?IS CONFLICT IS AN 5D TO ,ISRAELI OCCUPATION ( ! ,PALE/9IAN PEOPLE10 SAYS ,M>WAN ,B><\TI1 ! ANTI-,>AFAT ,WE/ ,BANK LEAD] ( ,FATAH 7,NEW ,YORK ,TIMES1 ,OCT4 #a#g1 #b3,A#a#i74 ,CLE>LY HE MEANS 9DEP5D5CE 9 & = ! ,T]RITORIES4 ,EV5 IF ?IS VIEW IS 9 P>T A CONCESSION TO GREAT] P[]1 ,I CONT9UE TO BE HUMBL$ BY ! POLITICAL REALISM & EV5 ! HUMANISM ) :I* ,PALE/9IANS >E READY TO ACCEPT ,ISRAEL1 IF ONLY ,ISRAEL WILL TAKE ! EQUIVAL5T /EP4 ,SIMIL> ATTITUDES >E NOT UNKN[N ON ! ,ISRAELI SIDE1 EI!R4 ,BUT 9 ITS GREAT MAJORITY1 ! ,ISRAELI SIDE HAS YET TO SAY10,PALE/9IANS DON'T HAVE ANY O!R PLACE TO GO40 ,?IS IS :Y ,I FEEL IT IS 9APPROPRIATE TO LECTURE ,ISRAELIS & ,PALE/9IANS EQUALLY ON ! NE$ TO AVOID BLOC ?9K+4 

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