,:IGS ,A/RAY .<#b.> 

,PEOPLE 3 

,AU?OR 3 ,WILLIAM ,MORRIS 

,TEXT 3 

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,A ,DIALOGUE ,BETWE5 ,[5 ,M>X ,BAKUN9 ,JONES1 AN >*ITECT 7UNSUCCESSFUL71 & -- ! ,REV4 ,SWA9 ,/RIDE1 A ,NONCON=MI/ P>SON1 & ,MR ,J]EMIAH ,BR[N1 A BUS9ESS MAN -- ADVANC$ ,RADICALS4 

,SC5E -- ,A COM=TABLE BAT*ELOR-LOOK+ ROOM 9 ,MR ,BR[N'S H\SE1 ) TOBACCO & PIPES & GROG TO ! =E4 ,MR ,/RIDE & ,MR ,BR[N SITT+ ON EI!R SIDE ( ! FIRE1 LOOK+ IMPORTANT & SELF-SATISFI$4 ,BETWE5 !M ,MR ,JONES ) AN OCCASIONAL ILL-CONCEAL$ GR9 ON HIS FACE4 

,S4 ',WE >E 9 FAVOR ( GIV+ SOME RELIEF BY WAY ( SECURITY ( T5URE TO LEASEHOLD]S :O >E EXPOS$ TO 5ORM\S LOSSES & RU94 ,IT IS TRUE ?AT ?IS MAY ONLY BE 9 ACCORDANCE ) A CONTRACT VOLUNT>ILY 5T]$ 9TO2 & IT MU/ BE ADMITT$ ?AT ! EVIL IS A DIFFICULT ONE TO DEAL )4' 

,J4 ,YES1 SO DIFFICULT ) Y\R QUALIFICATION TACK$ ON TO ! REM$Y 7AS Y\ ?9K IT7 ?AT Y\ WON'T DEAL ) IT AT ALL4 ,IT DOESN'T MATT]3 A MAN :O CAN HAVE 5ORM\S LOSSES MU/ BE RI*3 IT IS A QUE/ION BETWE5 TWO GR\PS ( CAPITALI/S4 ,PASS ON4 

,S4 ',WE >E 9 FAVOR ( ! ,/ATE MAK+ SOME PROVISION = EMPLOY+ M5 & WOM5 :O >E UNABLE TO F9D WORK4 ,IT IS A MATT] REQUIR+ V]Y C>EFUL TREATM5T2 BUT NO ONE CAN BELIEVE ?AT ! ,/ATE AS ! PEOPLE'S EXECUTIVE HAS EXHAU/$ ITS P[]S 9 ?IS MATT]4' 

,J4 ,WELL1 IF IT HAS1 C]TA9LY EXHAU/ION HAS COME BE=E EF=T2 = IT HAS NEV] TRI$ TO GIVE WORK TO ! REJECT$ ( ! LABOR-M>KET3 & IF IT DID TRY IT C\LD ONLY DO SO AT ! EXP5SE ( ! WORK]S G5]ALLY4 

,S4 ,WELL1 BUT Y\ SEE1 '! WORK PROVID$ & ! WAGES PAID NE$ ONLY BE SUFFICI5T TO /AVE (F HOPELESS POV]TY2 BUT ?AT AT ALL EV5TS A WISE & PRACTICAL SY/EM ( GOV]NM5T MI<T (F]'4 

,J4 ,YES1 9DE$1 ONLY SUFFICI5T TO /AVE (F HOPELESS POV]TY3 AN EASY JOB1 ISN'T IT8 ,MAN ALIVE1 DO Y\ KN[ :AT HOPELESS POV]TY IS8 ,LIVE ! LIFE ( IT1 & !N Y\ WILL KN[4 ,& H[ MANY LIVE SU* A LIFE8 -- TWO ?IRDS ( ALL ! WORK]S8 ,NE>] ?REE ?IRDS1 ,I ?9K4 ,Y\R SY/EM ( GOV]NM5T NE$ BE WISE & PRACTICAL 9DE$ TO /AVE ?AT (F4 

,S4 ,LET US HOPE IT WILL BE2 = WE SAY '!RE \<T NOT TO BE A S+LE HUMAN BE+ 9 ! NATION :O CAN HONE/LY /& UP & SAY3 ,I AM WILL+ TO WORK1 BUT ,I KN[ NOT :]E TO GO TO E>N H\SE-R5T & DAILY BREAD'4 

,J4 ,( C\RSE !RE \<T NOT1 & ,I AM GLAD TO HE> Y\ SAY SO2 BUT :AT >E Y\ TO DO BUT *]I% Y\R S5TIM5T AS A PI\S OP9ION8 ,CAN'T Y\ SEE ?AT IF IT W]E SO1 LABOR W\LD BE DE>2 ! CAPITALI/ W\LD HAVE TO COMPETE = ! WORKMAN1 9/EAD ( ! WORKMAN = ! CAPITALI/1 AS IS N[ ! CASE8 ,! CAPITALI/ W\LD BE UNDONE1 & W\LD CEASE TO EMPLOY1 UNLESS BY ! AID ( NEW MA*9]Y HE C\LD ONCE MORE W9 ! BLESS+ ( HAV+ A DUE AM\NT ( M5 WILL+ & UNABLE TO WORK4 ,& IF ! CAPITALI/ WON'T EMPLOY LABOR -- IE41 WORKM5 -- H[ IS IT TO BE EMPLOY$8 

,S4 ,!Y MU/ EMPLOY !MSELVES1 ,I SUPPOSE4 

,J4 ,I SUPPOSE SO4 ,9 ?AT CASE1 :]E >E ?OSE NON-PRODUC+ CLASSES ?AT Y\ >E SO T5D] (8 

,S4 ,WELL -- GONE1 ,I SUPPOSE4 

,J4 ,SO DO ,I SUPPOSE4 ,& YET Y\ HAVE BE5 SPEAK+ ( !M AS ?\< !Y & !IR NECESS>Y COMPLEM5T1 ! POOR1 W]E ESS5TIAL & ET]NAL4 

,S4 7AFT] A PAUSE47 ,= MY P>T1 1.>ONES1 ,I ?9K Y\ >E TRY+ TO CONFUSE ! SIMPLICITY ( TRUE DEMOCRATIC IDEAS ) Y\R P$ANTIC POLITICAL ECONOMY4 ,LET US COME BACK TO ! PO9T4 ,N[ PLEASE ATT5D4 ',WE >E 9 FAVOR ( MAK+2 JU/ICE EASY ( ACCESS TO ALL4 ,! PA? TO ! JUDGE \<T TO BE ! MO/ EASY2 BUT IT IS ! MO/ DIFFICULT4 ,JU/ICE \<T TO BE ! *EAPE/ COMMODITY 9 ! NATION2 & IT IS ! DE>E/4' 

,J4 ,! PA? TO ! JUDGE IS PRETTY EASY = SOME PEOPLE2 & IT /RIKES ME ?AT :5 !Y F9D HIM1 !Y PRETTY (T5 F9D AN ANIMAL :I* IS A CROSS BETWE5 A BABOON & A TIG]4 ,BUT DO Y\ KN[ ?AT ,I SUSPECT ?AT BY JU/ICE Y\ MEAN LAW2 & ,I MORE ?AN D\BT IF ?AT W\LDN'T BE DE> AT ANY PRICE4 ,= DOESN'T ALL CIVIL LAW MEAN ! 5=CEM5T ( PRIVATE CONTRACT1 ) ALL ITS 9TRICACY1 BY ! OV]MA/]+ VIOL5CE ( ! EXECUTIVE1 :I* DOESN'T TR\BLE ITSELF TO CONSID] :E!R ! C>RY+ \T ( ! CONTRACT WILL BE 9JURI\S TO ! PRIVATE P]SON OR TO ! COMMUNITY1 SO LONG AS IT HAS BE5 5T]$ 9TO LEGALLY8 

,S4 ,I REALLY DON'T UND]/& Y\4 

,J4 ,I FE> NOT2 & !RE >E MANY 9 Y\R CASE :O ?9K ?AT PEACE MEANS ! RULE ( LAW4 ,SO MU* ! WORSE = ALL ( US4 ,I ADVISE Y\ TO WAT* A CIVIL PROCESS 9 A LAW C\RT 7IF Y\ HAV5'T DONE SO ALREADY71 & !N TELL ME :AT Y\ ?9K ( IT4 ,IF Y\ !N DON'T UND]/& :AT ,I HAVE BE5 SAY+1 IT'S NO USE TRY+ TO MAKE Y\ UND]/&4 

,S4 ,WELL1 LI/5 TO ?IS6 ,N[ ,I ?9K ?AT Y\ WILL AGREE ) ME3 ',! ,RADICAL IS 9 FAVOR ( A RESOLUTE RE=M ( ! ,L& ,LAWS1 ) A VIEW TO GETT+ ! :OLE ( ! L& 9TO ! H&S ( ! COMMUNITY OR ! ,/ATE4 ,\R GREAT T[NS1 ESPECIALLY ,LONDON1 >E GETT+ DANG]\SLY CONGE/$ SIMPLY BECAUSE ! C\NTRYM5 :O >E PRESS+ 9TO !M CANNOT GET AT ! L&2 & !Y CANNOT GET AT ! L& BECAUSE ( LAWS & CU/OMS :I* W]E NEV] MADE = T5ANTS & LABOR]S1 BUT = L&LORDS & >I/OCRATS2 & !RE WILL NEV] BE ANY HOPE = ! LABOR+ CLASSES 9 ! C\NTRY DI/RICTS UNTIL !SE BAD OLD LAWS & CU/OMS >E *ANG$4' 

,J4 ,I AGREE ) :AT Y\ SAY1 & ) :AT Y\ MI<T MEAN1 BUT :I* ,I DON'T ?9K Y\ DO MEAN1 S9CE Y\ BEGAN BY CURS+ ?OSE :O SET CLASS AGA9/ CLASS4 

,S4 ,:Y6 :AT DO Y\ MEAN8 

,J4 ,A9'T ! L&LORDS & >I/OCRATS A CLASS8 

,S4 ,WELL -- WELL -- P]HAPS !Y >E4 

,J4 ,!Y >E1 :5 Y\ HAVE PROP]LY UND]/OOD ! MEAN+ ( ! WORD >I/OCRAT N[ADAYS2 TO WIT1 A P]SON PRIVILEG$ TO LIVE ON ! LABOR ( O!RS4 

,B4 ,( C\RSE HE DOESN'T MEAN - 

,S4 79T]RUPT+47 ,YES1 YES1 ,BR[N1 Y\'RE QUITE RI<T4 ,( C\RSE1 ,I DON'T MEAN ?AT ! L& %ALL BE TAK5 = ! L&LORDS )\T COMP5SATION2 ?\<1 P]HAPS1 NOT FULL COMP5SATION4 

,J4 ,MR ,BR[N1 WILL Y\ L5D ME A P\ND8 

,B4 7PUTT+ HIS H& 9 HIS POCKET47 ,) PLEASURE1 MY DE> FELL[4 

,S4 7LAU<+ RA!R SULKILY47 ,ONLY HE WILL REQUIRE COMP5SATION4 

,J4 ,TW5TY %ILL+S1 EH8 

,B4 ,OH1 SILV] WILL SUIT P]FECTLY WELL4 

,J4 ,N[ ,I WAS ?9K+ #a#eS4 W\LD DO4 

,B4 7GR9N+47 ,I SEE2 AN APOLOGY4 ,NO1 ,MR ,JONES1 ,I %ALL WANT ! TW5TY %ILL+S 9 FULL4 

,J4 ,SO WILL Y\R L&LORDS1 FRI5D ,/RIDE -- IF !Y CAN GET IT4 ,BELIEVE ME1 !Y WILL TRY = MORE IF A ,RADICAL GOV]NM5T %\LD 7! FANCY IS A WILD ONE7 TRY SU* A MEASURE AS 'GETT+ ! :OLE ( ! L& 9TO ! H&S ( ! COMMUNITY OR ! ,/ATE'4 ,& IF !Y CAN'T GET MORE1 ,I PROMISE Y\ !Y WON'T TAKE LESS )\T FI<T+ = !IR POSITION4 

,S4 ,I DON'T KN[2 P]HAPS !Y WILL IF ! ?+ IS DONE C>EFULLY1 )\T FRI<T5+ !M4 ,( C\RSE !Y WON'T IF Y\ GO HILLOA+ ,SOCIALISM AT !M4 

,J4 ,WELL1 IF Y\ LIKE1 WE WILL GRANT ?AT !Y WILL AGREE TO ! L& NATIONALIZATION :I* Y\ PROPOSE TO !M4 ,:AT >E Y\ GO+ TO DO ) ! O!R CAPITALI/S8 

,S4 ,! O!R CAPITALI/S6 ,WE %AN'T M$DLE ) ! CAPITALI/S AT ALL4 

,J4 ,9DE$6 ,!Y WILL DO :AT !Y LIKE ) !IR RI*ES !N8 

,S4 ,C]TA9LY2 IT W\LD BE M]E SLAV]Y = !M ELSE4 

,J4 ,& :AT >E !IR RI*ES8 

,S4 ,WELL -- WELL -- WELL - 

,J4 ,I SEE Y\ DON'T KN[1 SO ,I MU/ TELL Y\4 ,SO MU* PRIVILEGE TO MAKE ! PRODUC]S ( WEAL? PAY = LEAVE TO LIVE = NO CAUSE EXCEPT ! '9T]E/S' ( ! TAX]S4 ,?AT IS :AT Y\ HAVE GOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ! L&LORDS & >I/OCRATS4 ,IF Y\ LEAVE !M ?AT1 :ATEV] MEASURE ( L& NATIONALIZATION MAY BE PASS$1 :OEV] OR :ATEV] [NS ! L&1 !Y WILL MONOPOLIZE ! USE ( IT4 ,& H[ CAN Y\ COMP5SATE PEOPLE = TAK+ AWAY SU* A MONOPOLY BUT BY GIV+ IT BACK AGA9 TO !M8 

,R4 7GASP+47 ,BUT -- :Y -- ,MR ,JONES1 Y\ >E ADVOCAT+ ! ABOLITION ( PRIVATE PROP]TY6 

,J4 ,MR ,BR[N1 Y\ >E A CLE>HEAD$ MAN4 ,%AKE H&S6 ,BR[N SEEMS RA!R D\BTFUL1 BUT ,JONES SEIZES HIS H& & %AKES IT 5?USIA/ICALLY4.> 

,S4 ,NEV] M9D1 ,BR[N1 HE DOESN'T MEAN HALF HE SAYS4 

,J4 ,I WI% ,I C\LD SAY HALF ,I MEAN4 

,S4 ,N[ COMES ! REALLY IMPORTANT & PRACTICAL P>T ( \R PLAT=M4 ,WE '>E 9 FAVOR ( ONE MAN ONE VOTE 444 ( EQUAL SUFFRAGES = M5 & WOM5 444 ( A MORE DEMOCRATIC ,H\SE ( ,COMMONS 444! C&IDATE UND] C]TA9 CONDITIONS %\LD BE FRE$ FROM ! (FICIAL CONDITIONS2 & IT MI<T BE GOOD POLICY TO (F] A SMALL ANNUAL PAYM5T TO ?OSE ,M,P'S :O NE$ & DESIRE IT -' 

,J4 ,HOLD ON1 Y\R QUALIFICATIONS & EXCEPTIONS & CAUTIONS >E MUDDL+ ME SADLY2 BUT IT DON'T MATT]4 

,S4 ,WE '>E 9 FAVOR ( MAK+ AN 5D ( ! ,H\SE ( ,LORDS AS A H\SE ( H]$IT>Y LEGISLATORS'4 

,J4 ,YES1 SO ?AT Y\ MAY HAVE ! ,LORDS 9 ! ,COMMONS2 MORE QUALIFICATIONS4 ,WELL1 GO ON2 >E Y\ NE>LY AT AN 5D8 

,S4 ,YES1 YES6 ,I'M JU/ AT ! 5D4 ',:5 ,IREL& HAS ITS ,P>LIAM5T = ,IRI% AFFAIRS1 & ,SCOTL& HAS ITS ,P>LIAM5T = ,SCOT* AFFAIRS1 & ,WALES HAS ITS P>LIAM5T = ,WEL% AFFAIRS1 ! PRES5T ,H\SE ( ,COMMONS MI<T BE TURN$ 9TO ! ,5GLI% ,P>LIAM5T2 ! ,H\SE ( ,LORDS MI<T !N BE CONV]T$ 9TO A GREAT ,IMP]IAL ,P>LIAM5T = ,IMP]IAL AFFAIRS1 9 :I* !RE %\LD BE REPRES5TATIVES FROM EV]Y P>T ( ! ,EMPIRE AT HOME & ACROSS ! SEAS4 ,?IS IS ! GREAT ,RADICAL IDEAL4' 

,J4 ,WELL1 ?AT'S A NEW WAY ( ABOLI%+ ! ,H\SE ( ,LORDS1 C]TA9LY6 ,I DON'T ?9K !Y WILL GRUMBLE MU* AT IT4 ,AT ANY RATE1 Y\ W9D UP ) A GOOD ?UMP+ PIECE ( NONS5SE4 -- ,WELL1 ,I MU/ BE (F2 ?AT LECTURE WILL BE HALF OV] BY N[1 & ,I PROMIS$ TO GO4 

,B4 7%[+ R5EW$ 5]GY AFT] A T5D5CY TO SLEEP47 ,/OP A BIT1 ,MR ,JONES2 ,I ?9K ,I \<T TO EXPLA9 TO Y\ ?AT ! E>LI] P>T ( \R PROGRAM - 

,S4 79T]RUPT+74 ,YES1 ,BR[N1 YES2 \R FRI5D UND]/&S4 ,Y\ SEE1 ,JONES - 

,B4 7RA!R 9DIGNANTLY47 ,I SAY1 ,/RIDE1 JU/ LET ME HAVE ONE WORD4 ,MR ,JONES1 ALL ?AT AB\T L& NATIONALIZATION1 & ,/ATE WORKS = ! UNEMPLOY$1 & ! OLD PEOPLE AT ! WORKH\SE1 & ALL ?AT -- Y\ MUSN'T BE TOO SEV]E UPON IT2 BECAUSE1 ,I SAY1 IT IS PUT 9 -- 7NO1 ,/RIDE1 LET ME GO ON67 -- JU/ TO MAKE PEOPLE1 OR SOME PEOPLE1 HELP US 9 !SE SUFFRAGE MATT]S1 :I* IS ! ?+ WE ADVANC$ ,LIB]ALS OR ,RADICALS REALLY C>E AB\T2 & ,I FLATT] MYSELF WE KN[ SOME?+ AB\T IT TOO4 

,J4 ,WELL1 ,I MU/ SAY ,I ?9K Y\ \<T TO1 CONSID]+ ! NUMB] ( YE>S Y\ HAVE BE5 HEMM+ & HAW+ AB\T IT4 ,BUT LOOK H]E1 G5TLEM51 ,I MU/ GO1 ,I BET ! LECTUR] IS JU/ 9 HIS P]ORATION4 ,BUT1 ,I SAY1 ISN'T ',ADVANC$ ,RADICALS' RA!R L5G?Y 9 SPELL+ 

,B4 ,BUT1 ,JONES1 H[ W\LD Y\ SPELL IT8 

,J4 ,TRY -- IT WILL SAVE Y\ SOME LETT]S -- TRY ,W-,H-,I-,G-,S -- ,A-,S-,T-,R-,A-,Y -- IT MEANS ! SAME ?+ IF IT DON'T SPELL IT4 ,WELL1 GOOD-BYE2 ,I %ALL JU/ BE 9 TIME = QUE/ION-TIME4 

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